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    12/02/08 at 09:32 AM
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Those who know me know that I am not crazy about paranormal television shows. This stems from my belief that they basically make paranormal investigators look nuts in the eyes of the general public. You have Orb chasers and people that run every time they hear a bump in an old building. Some collect EVPs that I personally would throw out because you just have to strech it a little to make the garbled noise they are calling a voice say anything that makes sense. I do spend alot of time yelling at the TV during these shows... (Ok I am a little nuts)... I used to actually give TAPS some credit. They spent alot of time finding natural causes for seemingly paranormal events. Now not so much. I don't know if it is the pressure of making something normally quite boring watchable or what. But it seems lately every place they go is haunted.. If this is the case I wish they would go back to the old way. I have some advice for Mr. Baggins from Ghost Adventures too.. Don't be so confrontational, sure at times it is ok to provoke but the way I see it ghosts were people too and if you were that much of a jerk to me I might just tell you to screw yourself and hide out. Also take into consideration the people that have to be in there the next time.. You tick off whatever entity is there especially if it is "evil" as you say and it just might take it out on the next person. The Most Haunted group should just give up an as Forrest Gump says "Thats all I have to say about that".


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    11/02/09 at 09:47 AM
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Ok, since I am not getting out much I spent Halloween weekend watching all the paranormal show marathons. Here is my opinion of those shows and what went on this weekend:

Ghost Adventures Live: This was actually done better than I thought it would be. I have to admit I yell at the TV much less with the G. A. crew than I do with most other paranormal shows. I just wonder why Zak has to make all paranormal activity "evil". And yes they do stretch it from time to time. But for the most part it was ok. The only thing that got my blood up was Robert Bess and his POS "Parabot". Sure I can see the theory that a Tesla Coil can bump up EMF but that means his little EMF detector and siren were not functioning properly, because as soon as that thing kicked on it should have set it off. They tried to play off the malfunction of the machine at the beginning of the segment as an entity messing with the machine. I think it would have been better if they would have just admitted that it was a peice of junk and a wire came loose. Now to Mr. Bess... If you are going to claim that your EMF meter was "knocked from your hand" maybe you should make sure there isn't a camera on you when you throw it. (Moron). People like him give legitimate investigators a bad rap. I would advise Zak and anybody else to stay away from him in the future if they don't want to become a joke like the Most Haunted group. In a sidenote- I tried to find a link to video showing the EMF meter flying out of Bess' hand, but mysteriously there is none...

Ghost Hunters Live: I have made my opinion about Ghost Hunters clear in the past. Jason and Grant were good in the beginning. They debunked, and it almost took an act of congress to get them to say anything was haunted. Now, everything is haunted. Anyway, it seems that Jason and Grant were just too busy to show up and do what everyone expects them to do. Instead we got to watch reruns of reruns in thier scariest episodes countdown. At least Syfy put up live webcams to give people something to do during the airing of the episodes everyone has seen 5 times.

Paranormal State: Again, reruns of reruns. I just can't get in to the way they do things.

Extreme Paranormal: Holy Crap! And I do mean CRAP. Ghostman and Demon Hunter have a TV show now. How does someone with such poor scientific methods and theories get their own tv show? Most of thier investigation seems to be based on the occult. They should just call it the Midevil Paranormal Methods show. I thought their radio show was off the wall but seeing it on TV is just nuts. I sure hope those that watch this silliness do not think all investigators act this way. Oh and to add to the cheese factor is the dubbing of thier communications. Watch it and you'll see what I mean.

Ghost Lab: There was nothing from these guys on over the weekend but I figured I should mention them anyway. First of all, that trailer rocks. All the wonderful toys! These guys aren't half bad. Their theories seem somewhat sound and I like the fact that they are testing some new methods that actually do make sense. I will have to keep watching to see how the show progresses. I just hope they dont fall into the same trappings as TAPS and others have fallen into while making TV shows.

Destination Truth: Again, nothing over the weekend but they do deserve a mention. To me this is the best of them all. Maybe not strictly a paranormal show but they do some ghost hunting here and there. When they do they seem to work on the soundest of theories and I can't recall them ever dabbling in any occult tactics. Josh Gates (the host) never tells you "it's haunted" He presents the findings and lets the audience judge for themselves. However, the best thing about this show is that Josh and his crew are entertaining. Showing the pitfalls and high points of traveling all over the world to find the unexplained.

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    11/03/09 at 01:12 PM
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I enjoyed your take on these shows. I too watch TAPS and share the in same thought that you have regarding every place that they investigate is haunted. I believe they lost some credibility during last years live show when they came under scrutiny for the collar yanking incident with Grant. A lot of people believe that it was staged. Maybe this is why they did not want to do a live show this year. I believe that there is a lot of pressure from TV executives to capture evidence, or the appearance of evidence. For some reason I still like their approach to hunting. It does appear to be genuine.

I watched some of the Ghost Adventurers live show as well. I enjoyed it for the most part and like you believe that the provoking goes a little too far. I really like the SB7(voices from the radio waves box) and while it seems far fetched to think that it really works, I still think that it was neat.

Ive seen Ghost Lab a few times and like the scientific approach but also question some of the evidence. But everyone has garbled EVP's that they want to believe is something paranormal.

I have not seen Extreme Paranormal but someone told me about it this morning - does not sound like something i would want to watch.

Destination Truth is good show and they had great footage of their cameraman being yanked off his posterior and tossed a few yards while in the middle of this forest in Romania(?). They keep it real but never seem to have positive proof of their findings - it is usually left up to you. Like the cameraman incident it surely makes you think.

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    11/05/09 at 10:04 AM
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Last night Ghost Hunters was in Eatonton at Oak Hall. Maybe they are reading our posts and decided not to say the place was haunted. They debunked many things as electrical problems.... I tried contacting Oak Hall about a year ago and I was told that they did not "do that kind of stuff". I guess they do if it gets them on TV. I deffinately think our group or a group like ours could do a more thurough job than one with camera crews running about though.


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    11/08/09 at 06:43 PM
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    I personally think one of the reasons so many of the TV paranormal shows strive to make a place "haunted" has alot to do with the property owner's business.  What better way to increase profits than by having an "official" paranormal group say their establishment is haunted.  Every one loves a good ghost story, even if they don't investigate the paranormal.  It's that intrigue of the unknown that results in profits for some.  I would hate to think that some people are intentionally saying they have found evidence just to ensure the future profitability of a business.
   I would love to see an TV show that based their research on the fundamental aspects of science and scientific theory. I remember the principles of an hypothesis from high school science classes, I guess some investigators didn't receive that lesson in school.  I have read investigation reports from some groups and can't believe they would even publish the results. It was like HUH?
   As for the TV shows, I agree, something has happened with TAPS. After last years live event and then seeing the con on video on the internet, I lost alot of faith in their methods. I enjoy watching now more for entertainment, the newest gadgets ( I am still trying to find the stuff to build a mini seismograph), and for the history of the locations.
  I think Zak needs some prozac and has some anger issues.  I have just started watching Ghost Lab and I love their toys. I have only had the chance to watch one episode, but I am intrigued by the theory and approach of their investigations. I have to see more shows before I make a decision. Most Haunted is the best British humor since Benny Hill.
 
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    11/10/09 at 08:17 AM
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We have proof of the first part of your post. It is my understanding that since TAPS did thier Gaither investigation they have started charging groups to go out there. Now I don't really have a problem with this, there is nothing wrong with an underfunded historic site trying to make ends meet by charging a minimal fee. They just need to be careful about what evidence they post from some groups. Otherwise thier rep as a haunted site could be damaged. BTW if I did not say it before I will say it now, TAPS did a shoddy job out there. We had debunked the buffet door yet they used it as evidence. I was told that they spent almost 0 time in Cecilias room and only about 15 minutes in the church...(It was cold). So they missed the two main hotspots on the entire site.. But that is just my opinion.

On that note I would like to make a plea... Jason, Grant, come back... We dont mind if every place you go to isn't haunted. We would rather see a thorough job and real evidence when it does occur.

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    11/12/09 at 11:40 AM
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So, Ghost Hunters Academy premiered last night. For a first show it wasn't bad. Steve and Tango did a good job showing the "students" different techniques and did a really good job of explaining why and how those techniques worked. Could this be redemption for the Ghost Hunters franchise?

I guess I had skipped the episode where TAPS was at the fort. However while they were showing a flashback to that episode something eerie struck me. It seems they caught a wiff of something followed by what sounded like a growl on thier recorders. Almost the same thing we caught at Eagle Tavern which is shown in the evidence section of our page... Kind of cool in a creepy kind of way

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    11/17/09 at 05:03 PM
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Talk about somethng I know absolutley nothing about, animal spirits or "haunted pets." A new series call "The Haunted" on Animal Planet premiers this Sunday. Sounds interesting..we shall see.


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    11/18/09 at 07:35 AM
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It stands to reason that if people can leave behind energy or thier "life force" can transform into something else, an animal's should be able to do the same as well..... I wonder why we don't see more ghost deer on the highway?


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    11/18/09 at 12:53 PM
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I watched the first half of Ghost Lab last night and was pleased to see that that could not confirm that a knife falling from a vase as paranormal activity. I'm sure that even though the knife was originally placed securely in the vase that it could become somewhat less secure as people are walking around in a 100 plus year old home. Interesting yes but explainable.

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